energy and violations. senator rockefeller said yesterday when i asked about this, they can lawyer these things out, it's very difficult to shut down a mine. i spoke with one miner, mr. clemens, who is a contract employee. i asked him and his wife, they have two young children. i asked, are you worried about going back in that mine because of these safety violations. they said to me, look, it's my job. massey energy supplies the head over my children's roof. it's the job in town. it's how they earn a living. he's planning to go back to work. tamron. >> thank you very much. the families of the four miners still missing are certainly holding out hope they are alive. one of those miners families -- one of the miners missing, his name is dean jones. he's worked there for more than 30 years of experience in mining. he's a foreman at the upper big branch mine. his sister spoke with matt lauer this morning on the "today" show. >> my hope is that my brother is