sheriff dean if beyond just naming his militia after the boosk exodus, he was also motivated by an expectation of the rapture by the end of days, sheriff dean declined to comment on that. joining us now is frank shaffer, author of "crazy for god" and a blogger for the huffington post. thanks very much for joining us tonight. i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on, rachel. >> operation exodus draws its name from the book of exodus in the bible, the sheriff explains that in his press release. what do you make of linking an effort like this to the old testament? >> well, it's kind of symbolic because the story of exodus is the jews the people of god fleeing an unjust ruler so obviously it's a backhanded comment about the united states government, barack obama, what have you. and in my mind it links up with the sheriffs who at the c-pac meeting a couple weeks ago took an oath to break the law and not follow orders if they don't like what they're told. really this is just another evidence of the fact that there