contract? isn't that a good business practice by goldman to be protecting itself? >> absolutely, goldman has a responsibility to its shareholders to protect them. the question is, were goldman's prices too low? we discovered a lot of unusual behavior, like, the feeling at aig that goldman was pushing other banks to also issue demands. also, goldman's prices were consistently lower than other banks. and though prices did come down, they have since gone up. so goldman's low prices are no longer what these things trade for in the market. the question is, did they push too hard and were they too aggressive? >> all right. well, louise story, that was a fascinating read yesterday and something that i'm sure you're keeping tabs on, moving forward. the goldman name keeps popping up in every, it seems, economic crisis these days. thanks so much. >> thanks, louise. okay, now to my trivia question. really, it's one of those great bar questions. >> for you. >> name the four schools that have produced both a president