national border patrol council. we've been waiting for it. today is the day. what comes of it do you think? >> well, if you look at what happened if guatemala. we've seen zero net gain from her visit to guatemala. now she is at the border in el paso and we just had congresswoman escobar say that el paso is the new ellis island. that will invite more people to come across the border illegally. we don't know what's going to happen. what i can tell you is we've seen zero evidence that this administration wants to actually secure the border. so if she comes to the border and actually does something she needs to be applauded for it. because the evidence doesn't show that we'll see any net gains from this i think this is going to be a grand gesture which she said she didn't want to do. >> bill: two things here. ted cruz, listen to what he said about it. >> el paso is a lovely city, a beautiful place in texas. it is not also -- it also doesn't happen to be the locust