administration's, this is not about a critique of the biden administration. we have to push back against the cyber activity against the pipeline or the ability to build out a pipeline in the northeast. they matter. 16 places that we'll defend american cyber defense? that is not good policy and it's not good for the american people. >> martha: there's no doubt that we need to build up a serious cyber front that has very clear red lines act interfering with any american operations whatever is over. i do want to ask you about this before we let you go. with regard to afghanistan. the way that this administration is pulling out. they want to be out by september 11th. this is a quote from prime minister karzai. he said --