mouth. >> ortegas, you worked for our mutual friend, former secretary of state pompeo. i asked him about the biden administration getting lectured on human rights abuses by of all countries, china, in anchorage, alaska. we have an offer. pompeo will debate vladimir and putin can pick the russian moderator. i don't think he would duck and hide the way biden did and wouldn't do a joint presser. >> no. >> sean: my question is, you know the intelligence and red the briefings before, how does putin interpret today? >> first, that would be must see tv, sean. you're always must see tv but i think we need to make that happen. one of the things that you said earlier that hillary clinton said you need to deal with putin differently in public and differently in private.