for political reasons. >> as for who is killing whom and throwing whom in jail. people came to the u.s. congress, a political demands, 400 people, over 400 people had criminal charges placed on them. they face prison sentences. >> apples and oranges according to biden. >> i think that's ridiculous comparison. >> apparently the two got along well enough. >> the tone of the entire meeting, i guess it was a total of four hours, was good, positive. >> and putin complimed biden as a statesman. >> he is very constructive. is he very balanced just the way i expected. he is very experienced. you can tell that at first glance. >> but tensions will remain. >> this is not a kum ba yah moment as they used to say back in the 60's in the united states like let's love and hug each other. >> biden's big diplomatic challenge getting china to cooperate with the world health organization. >> you have talked many times