bloodshed. what can we learn from this? pat brosnan joins me now. first of all, sir, i want to just -- can you hear me? >> loud and clear, charles. >> is a hero down in texas says he is no hero. it is just what he has learned to do. he says that there was evil there. he did what he had to do. you say no, he is a hero and that maybe we all could learn from him. >> absolutely. he is 1000% a hero, charles. within six seconds, he neutralized them. a textbook case, i might add, from what i see, and the justified deadly use of physical force in texas under current law. i salute him. and another positive affirmation, charles, where a good guy with a gun stops the