paul: dan, a big fight in the administration on trade policy. this is critical of the administration on some of the trade policy, particularly helter-skelter nature of it. we get a lot of support from inside the administration, just to let our viewers know. a lot of people cheer us on on that, someone outside, folks that are out there say do not dare criticize the crpresident that but there is a fundamental economic policy to make here. >> you and i don't think the debate has really is over trade per se. we do need a trade deal with china. the debate really centers on the idea of tariffs and the tariffs he's imposing stone them against germany as well and he has tried to make them part of the deal with china. i think a lot of people inside the white house, this overhang has had a suppressive effect on the economy going forward. and crisis could begin to rise as a result of the tariffs