most normal democrats, if there are such a thing as normal democrats, they would rather go with someone like joe, more normal, to lead us back where we were, than the socialists out there. every one of the other candidates, every one of them, have proposed socialists ideas. that is why he is leading in the polls. so they think if they keep him out of sight, he's gonna continue to lead in the polls. >> gregg: i have news for them. he is not doing well these days in iowa. that is the first contest. if elizabeth warren wins there as one poll indicates that is finito for joe biden. herman cain, thank you so much for being with us. good to see you. >> thank you. >> gregg: joining us with more reaction author of "still winning," fox news contributor charlie hurt.