assets where he used where the crimes occurred and try to use that where they distribute the assets of victims. and we see news of more people coming forward, filing lawsuits against the estate. i'm sorry, this is going to get what we get in probate law and trust and estates law. a terrible thing to get involved with. a lot of lawyers are going to be involved and what's going to happen, the judge will see that. hopefully will distribute the estate and make sure that all of the victims are fairly compensated. not going to make up for what mr. epstein did, but they'll have their chance to tell their side of the story and get compensation. >> my take on it is that the reason the three attorneys for mr. epstein are trying to discredit this is they're trying to limit the liability. but as both of you have pointed out, the lawyers always make out like the bandits that they should. but i do hope there's justice for all of these particularly young women harmed -- more than harmed along the way. but gentlemen, i appreciate your expertise tonight and thank you for joining us.