hoax. by the way, manufactured from propagandaist in moscow. >> tammy: but we know what the next two years of the "new york times" will be. bring this up, a final statement from them about what now the plan needs to be. the chief, push the trump racism theme. race in the next year, i think what would be frank, what i hope you come away with the discussion with. race in the next year is going to be a huge part of the american story. now this, remember, is a meeting. the context is how they are going to shape the narrative. that is what they have already decided. >> tammy, the two stories, the russian conspiracy, collusion hoax and the racism story, they have one common denominator. that is it is going to pit americans against each other. >> tammy: correct. >> it will divide us for the first half of the trump presidency with the shadow hanging over from before when he was inaugurated.