>> laura: the people were still thrown around in the debate. officer wilson can never work again as a police officer.>>tiw. i think he had to change his name. he won't give an interview. he was accused of murdering someone in cold blood. that's not what the findings were. that was irresponsible. john, i want to ask you about what harris said about -- actually castro said at the debate about a national use of force stanford. federalizing the police use of force. >> whether it's the case of someone like rice or michael brown or eric garner where the trump justice department decided not to pursue charges. we need to end immunity for police officers to hold them