you wouldn't know it by tonight's debate, you would know it from yesterdays with bernie sanders. >> laura: we had the laning for john delaney the only one with business experience other than andrew yang. i ran two health care companies -- medicare pays 80% for what doctors need to cover their costs. medicare for all will crater whatever it's going to crater which is medicare but we've got kamala and they are mixing it up in the beginning over this medicare for all conversation. it's hard to follow for most people who don't know the issues for this is how it went down. >> vice president biden's campaign called your plan "a have it every which way approach" and its "part of the confusing pattern of equivocating your health care stands." >> he's probably confuse he's not listening. >> you should get something good in ten years, you should wonder why it takes ten years but it will require middle-class taxes