issues in the past that you have to take on the big dogs in your party to be a transformational candidate. but tonight, it was an odd thing to watch because again, barack obama, two-term president, extremely popular. global superstar. pretty much all of them are hitting it without necessarily saying it. obama, trade deals. they did it last night too and biden is there saying wait a second, that was the party of hope and change. >> there's a couple things here. first of all, i think we have to acknowledge that some of the deficiencies of the obama administration created the opening for donald trump. as far as health care, there is a real divide. among democrats on health care. and there has been for decades. in 2000 i went to the democratic platform's committee to present medicare for all and it was shot down by the gore campaign. this is -- and the support for