nobody gave that sentence of emergency that the democratic base is feeling for they weren't seeing it in their candidates. >> laura: dennis kucinich, you argued a lot of these issues in the past that you have to take on the big dogs in your party in order to be a transformational candidate. but tonight, it was in awe the thing to watch because, again, barack obama a two term president, extremely popular. global superstar, but pretty much all of them were hitting obama without necessarily saying it. obamacare, trade deals, they did it last night too. biden is there saying it, that was the party of hope and change. >> there is a couple of things here. first of all, we have to acknowledge that some of the deficiencies of the obama administration created the opening of donald trump. as far as health care, there is a real divide among democrats on health care and there has been for decades.