donald trump won in 2016. >> you know what? you will be upset if you end up learning about the chinese help kamala harris. he really will be upset. >> i think that we as americans have a reason to be upset. i don't think that there is any argument at this point -- president trump says oh, this is all fake. there is nothing fake about the intelligence agencies, mueller, and everybody else think that the russians interfered that helped donald trump and hurt hillary clinton. in addition, charlie, what we just recently learned is that they hacked all 50 states elections apparatus. they didn't act on it, but they succeeded in getting inside. >> sandra: hold on. i want to get this in here. respond to this. democrats in the media, his record on russia. they read "the truth is is that he has been far tougher on vladimir putin that anyone else was. the george w. bush and obama administrations. he push for tougher sanctions,