impeachment chatter and it's not that they wouldn't impeach trump if they thought they could, but the real purpose of impeachment was the political goal of rendering trump unelectable by autumn of next year. so, i thought this was always all political and what they tried to do was make it look legitimate by carrying it under rubric like counterintelligence and law enforcement. but i don't recognize it as suc such. >> tucker: have you ever seen anything more cynical and damaging to the country itself? >> not this widespread and systemically. i was thinking when you are making your opening remarks about harry reid back in 2012, when he just blurted out that romney hadn't paid his taxes and when they asked about it, it was just a blatant flat out live. and when they asked him about it later, he said well, he didn't win, did he? i'm not really seems to me the bottom line to these guys. it's all about winning.