pfnl back to what you said about fusion gps how it he not be familiar request that after we spent 25 million dollars basically two years of an investigation what is that telling you? does that tell you. he doesn't have a television or newspaper -- >> for year. >> i'll tell you what it tells me he wasn't running this investigation. this was an investigation run by -- his deputies and his assistants. >> why make him the lead buy ?mple here's the question to ask yourself, why is it that when he asked a couple of days ago -- that in order for him to testify he wanted aaron his deputy to be next to him and ultimately sworn in in the house and where it he have to have that? now you saw why. exactly. jay is the president more a to look to pardon those who paid price for know him today than yesterday. you know, in't have the had the discussions with the president regarding who get parlden who would not be pardoned that would