>> thanks for having me. >> neil: you were trying to illustrate the point that the president wasn't trying to interfere with him. in the end, tried to fire him, remove him or any of that. might have been a lot of rumors out there. in the end, he got to finish the project, got to leave as prosecutor himself. but on his terms, not on any presidential demands. is that what you were saying? >> yeah, you're right. several democrats that spoke before me kept on bringing up on how the president wanted to fire mueller and he told mcgahn and then he was trying to do things -- the bottom line is, he didn't fire mueller. mueller was able to do his entire investigation without being obstructed by any kwun. he himself resigned. so i thought it was really not a good point by the democrats. in fact the entire day was a failure for the democrats. chairman nadler had publicly