times and between 21, they'll have inflection to where they want it to be. we hear inflation, and we get nervous and we recoil. we're always happy when our paychecks inflate, our homes inflate. the value of our baseball cards inflate. we need some kind of inflation. deflation is what we had during the great depression and it it could become a death spiral. jay powel saying, yesterday, he was in paris saying other countries monetary policy influence the economies of other nations. so if america isa 2.5% in our rates, japan is at zero. and are sweden and at a less negative number. we're in a globe global exempt we've been reminded of that over and over again . >> he said that, huh. >> yeah, if you listen to jay powel, decent want the typical federal reserve to save the economy from recession.