if i hit any type of crime and i don't show up to court they will come and arrest me and separate me from my family, that's the choice that i have made by breaking the law. >> right. >> it's not the choice that law enforcement has made,@not the choice that the president has made, it's the choice that criminals have made when they break the laws, that's what it comes down to. heather: art, you saw the tweet there from nancy pelosi specifically, let's just take her, for example, you can take a lot of democrats, where were they when president obama was doing this in much higher numbers, he was separating, if you want to go there, separating families, he was doing the same thing in terms of the people as you're saying that broke the law to begin with, broke our laws and have been told over and over you need to leave and had just thumbed their nose at the law. >> well, let's just take it step further, the individuals that are in cities that are claiming sanctuary, calling them sanctuary cities and they are saying that they will not cooperate, they are not going