president of the united states, takes laws that require people to be deported and after being deported due process, the last year of the obama administration looks similar to the first year of the trump administration and let me show you the numbers, under president clinton, you're pushing up to 2 million removals, president bush topped 1 million, president obama almost kind of doubled president trump in 2017, so can you give me a view of -- of why you think this is so controversial and removals have increased versus the returns and what that means? >> under president obama record number of removals, 409,000, the trump administration removed more than half of that n. the 3 years i ran enforcement