i don't know where that goes, i'm not going to point any fingers, but they are swirling speculation. there's a rule in politics, the moment you bring up the podium it's a matter of when you are going to leave. if your cabinet official. >> harris: wow! >> if you are a senator governor you can survive it a little bit, but his moment of time. >> harris: the moment you bring up the podium. what's next? this administration is taking a lot of criticism for having so many high-level job openings. >> asked. well, look, i think president trump finds he likes to have acting secretaries. he's got a number of them. one, you don't have to have them confirmed by the senate and have a drawn-out process. second, i think he kind of likes having leverage over this. >> harris: why? is not helping on defense at this point. a load of criticism that by the time we replaced the second acting in the last few months, we might have gone a complete year without a defense secretary . >> there's been a number -- we have four at the head of the