dagen and dana couldn't vote. >> jesse: was it founded on sexism? >> juan: yeah. >> jesse: pile it all on. >> juan: i'm not piling it on. to say it's historical fact, i'm saying it's the fact. >> jesse: barack obama didn't even say that about our country. he said the most beautiful, inspiring things about this nation's founding. he didn't get close to what you said or beto o'rourke. any person is going to run for president of this country never would say something like that. >> juan: anybody who knows american history would say that's reality. the question is. >> jesse: i don't think anybody agrees with that. >> juan: how can you disagree with the idea that the founding fathers said you've got to be a landowning white male. >> jesse: just because something happened at the time doesn't define the founding. >> juan: what are you talking about? >> jesse: just because people had slaves during the founding doesn't mean we are founded on slavery in white supremacy is