but more likely, they were just lying. in so many ways, america is a weaker, poorer, more divided country then it was when he first ran for president in 1982. we can't say that perot would've been a great president. who knows. but if we listened to him more and not dismissed him, we'd be a stronger country today. ross perot, rest in peace.ry former special counsel robert mueller will be testifying before congress on his final report on the russian investigation. but if mueller's testimony tried to sway democrats towards impeachment, he will have to overcome the words h of his teas own 400 page report. aaron mate just wrote a piece saying that the substance undercuts its own claims about russian interference in the 2016 election. thanks for coming on. you are arguing in this piece that the claims that the mueller report makes about russianie interference are not