we've got to treat him as the demonic force that he is. when we have a panel, we do not want to have a single trumpers on it. we have had three years of accusation of investigation and the real debate, and i thinkat that's been the fault of the left, not of trump. trump has been trying to put issues on the agenda. even trump's trade policy, have we had a real debate about it? no. why? because of this atmosphere of intimidation accusation, investigation and that's about it. >> laura: chris? real quick. we've got to go. >> there's been a lot to investigate, not only the president but some of the people put in his cabinet who are no longer with his cabinet. he now has a cabinet that's mostly acting. if he really loves this country in this constitution, he would appoint people and let the senate confirmed in the way the founders intended it. >> laura: okay -- all right. we all got our licks in here but -- >> we did. >> laura: i'm all about having a debate of big ideas. do not try to claim the right is the only hard ballplayer in the room, chris hahn. that is a joke.