this asylum piece. on some of these must-pass pieces of legislation that are coming up in september, i would focus all sorts of resources on figuring out a way to change that. if they don't, i think what greg is talking about, the caravans and the visuals, they know that the administration is under pressure. so they are going to continue to send people here. and we are not going to have enough -- we are not equipped to take care of them. >> juan: incentive, dana, is not about anything that we say oh these kids are not being taken care of. the incentive is these people are fleeing oppression and poverty and want better life for their family and children. >> dana: okay. there still is a system. everybody can talk about how do you fix the problem at its source? they don't want to leave. i'm for that. >> greg: other countries should not be dictating our border policy by sending people. we cannot forget that children are being used and abused as pass keys into a country who built that? the people in the united states who mock this humanitarian crisis months