in 2019. i don't know what it means, either, laura. we'll have to google it. honestly in 2019 and during president obama's term there were many progressives who did not think he went progressive enough. this is not just a new 2019 thing whether it was the deportations, not fighting hard enough for the public option. this is not just something that is being raised. so if joe biden will try to attach himself to the coattails of president obama, he gets to take the good and the bad.a,ta seems like that's all he wants to do. he has to run on his record and his past. he has to do that. he cannot stand on his mother, father, sister, brother or president obama. >> laura: horace, that's where biden is. he is desperate to get some of it reflected glory from obama, right? don't you pick on obama. that was a sad moment for biden. i've always liked him.