you thought it was a bad idea for kamala harris to bring race into the debate stage? >> joe biden's record is fair game but if you divide democrats on race, you lose. you divide and trump con cures. black voting turnout dropped from 66.6% to 59.6%. you want african-americans todr vote address racial disparity, wealth, wages, health. talk about working poores families. look at the crime and murder rate in black communities and how people are treated by the police. these are issues that will motivate people. but if you just use it on race and in a personal attack, democrats are going to lose. >> laura: you thought it was a great moment for her, why?ou >> it was a great moment. race is in everything in america. race is in the water we drinkk whether it's flint, michigan, who goes to jail, who gets shot and killed by police. you cannot avoid race. she was just letting it be known