booker and castro. >> booker didn't call for a marshall plan. >> martha: nobody said we need do is go -- we need to send aid and help those countries immune to help those people where they live is what he said. >> yeah, the interesting thing, i don't disagree with mr. pudzer that the united states cannot solve those problems. but i think we can help, and historically when the united states has assisted, for example, in anti-crime, antidrug, antiviolence measures, that has reduced the amount of immigration to the united states. as a factual matter, i think it's worth not trying to blow up their economies or threaten them. the trump administration has been threatening economic sanctions and ending all aid. i don't know that you need to go to a marshall plan. i don't think it's predominantly economic aid that has affected it as so much as institution building for. the repatriation's don't really