solve guatemala's problems or the problems in honduras or el salvador. should we try and help them solve those problems? should we do a weekend to try to lift those people, as we do, sure we should but the idea that our government is going to solve the problems and what they call the northern triangle is ridiculous. their cerebral violence, gang violence. drugs there's excessive poverty. this is not a problem we can solve. it's a problem we can help them with but it's not one we can solve ourselves. >> martha: it feels like a focus last night was not so much on organizing the border better so that people are safer when they go through this process. the things that got to go applause that we need to send more. we need to do a marshall plan, the equivalent of a post-world war ii plan to rehabilitate these economies which the bond market appears to think are pretty stable. >> well, that was one of the candidates that said that one time. >> martha: two of them. we display two.