debater and quoting college professors who say that she was the best student they ever taught. that several new national polls. and, a new straw poll from moveon.org puts her as number one above progressive voters. along with former aides senator chuck schumer and chris hahn. welcome gentlemen, great to have both of you with us. chris, let me start with you. what do you make of that thesis? >> i read it and it's not completely wrong. hillary didn't not have a really hard time being bernie sanders, it might have appeared that way but she beat him easily. if joe biden runs a same race and becomes the democratic nominee and campaigns in wisconsin, michigan and