kutcher six years ago that he internalized that speech and he just -- all he forgot was the citation. he says that he didn't steal anything. he was inspired by the format. >> jesse: biden just hired this guy as a speech writer. but if you are going to plagiarize his speech that's a good one to plagiarize. i really like the message that ashton shared but if you are going to plagiarize the worst person to do it would be a principal that's not really the role to do that. politician instead. >> juan, kids get in so much trouble for plagiarizing and in college you have to digitally turn in all of your papers that compare your paper to every other paper to make sure you are not lifting passage. he did not just lift a passage or two. that was a massive cut and paste job. >> juan: principals are role model. no question for many people in their schools. they have to live up to a hire standard. his standard, even the excuse, kennedy, was just lame. oh my gosh, format.