line joe biden has drawn which is reasonable for most americans, he doesn't want to pay for it. he took seriously a statement. he says if i personally oppose abortion then i should pay for it and i think most americans and democrats will see that as a reasonable period >> martha: it raises -- aside from the moral issues it raises that interesting political question. look at the polling in america it appears that the majority of americans are not where so many of these candidates are on this issue. does it strengthen joe biden's hand to say no, actually i am on the side of 51% of americans. >> i think when planned parenthood was available in every state and had access to abortions for women who wanted it and it's the constitutional right under the constitution and this court hasn't changed that. i think most americans realize that that right should be given on your ability to pay.