are impacted by at the border. long-term the solution should be legislation. both parties have to work together to accomplish that. and that's not going to happen before the election. >> martha: austin? >> well, i would say the reason the president can't get legislation pass side because 3/4 of the country disagree with the approach he is taking. they don't favor putting kids in cages. they don't favor separating children from parents. >> martha: austin, i understand that. >> [overlapping talking]. >> martha: i asked you the first time, what would you do? you said the president should pass a law. as andy explained is not how it worked. >> [overlapping talking]. >> martha: i just need one suggestion for you as to something else that is concrete to stop the influx at the border, specifically. >> okay, i can give you three.