humane, illegal set of policies to carry out. the results are going to be horrible. >> emiyl: i wanted to ask if up until now at least fs has been reminiscent of obama 2008 which is the media skimming over the comments he has been making in favor of this persona? >> dana: it's the argument that a lot of the democratic candidates were making, who is this guy? you are not asking him any specific questions. you love his life story and he does have an amazing life story. i'm surprised he made this money on heuristic errors in this town hall. the question about frank income i think what he was trying to do, i think he believes what he believes, but i also think he was trying to take a shot at kirsten gillibrand to the center from the work because there are democrats who say they will not give to her campaign because he forced resignation. he is pulling way lower than he