it's 18 months between now and the november election. when it comes to impeachment, democrats know that republicans control the senate and this will be a very arduous and difficult process. the calculation here is that if you go down the path of impeachment, if you decide this is an investigative congress rather than a legislative one, you won't prove to voters that you can get things done. right now it seems we're so far past that that not a lot is getting done. so why not make the argument that impeachment is necessary. >> as you talk to some of these campaigns, warren, harris, o'rourke, moulton, the top four on that list, have any of them thought what is our message going to 2020 if we came out in favor of impeachment and it doesn't happen? >> i think that -- that's an incredibly interesting question. the broader perspective here is