well in school, do you have aptitude, those kinds of things are with what the sap is supposed to do. now if you don't want an s.a.t. that's fine, but what you shouldn't be allowed to do is have the s.a.t. company work int tandem with the affirmative action crowd that's just giving more advantage to one group over another group. >> laura: now, pugh research found most americans say that race or ethnicity shouldn't be considered in college admissions whether it should be a major factor, only 7%. minor factor, 19%. not a factor at all, 73% of americans say it isn't kosher. what do you think, this seems a little curious. because adversity is subjective. the s.a.t. and so forth, i was never great at these tests so i'm not in love with these tests. but they're just objective standards.s. how do you measure of adversity