number russian actors to cooperate information, the obstruction of justice is more complex. i'm not a lawyer,i didn't -- [laughter] >> i was interested in listening to previous individuals talk about it. i might have a slightly different opinion on it. i thought it's compelling in barr's letter that he said, generally speaking to on stain and sustain the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that person acting with corrupted engaged in obstructive conduct pending proceeding, barr goes onto say, there was no -- no obstruction conduct that was tied to pending or proceeding or done with criminal intent which is why he and rod rosenstein reached, here stuff that would say would raise concerns here, offsetting