had demonstrable proof that these things were happening. you look at all the work the president has tried to do around the world to end wars, resolve conflicts, reduce nuclear proliferation, a lot of that work has been hindered by the lies being told in this country that can be traced right back to the dnc and the clinton campaign. >> tucker: it is such a smart point. i can'tke believe that we are alighting over, flowing past the fact that the obama administration spied on the trump campaign. if the trump administration were using the department of justice to spy on the kamala harris for president campaign, that seems to me, it would be a very serious breach and a very big new story. by arena finding out everything we can about what the obama doj did to the trump campaign? >> it allo goes back to the fact that we allow secret courts to operate in the absence of transparency and that invites an opportunity for corruption. it allows people to politicize the highest levels of our ncintelligence community and/or investigative community.