individual -- >> criminal conspiracy involving the russians? >> yes. >> that scenario, you know something about. that investigation was developing while you were still on the job. >> it was, in terms of looking at what was goinger on with the russians and whether or not persons were actively collaborating, colluding, cooperating, involved in a conspiracy or not. but also if there's going to be any member -- >> did you see enough at that stage to believe that theree wee now -- that would result in indictments once investigated? >> t i thought at the time there was going to be individuals who were going to have issues with the department of justice. >> tucker: that was a former o cia director, one of countless retired intel officials you see parading across your screen every night, all of them paid by msnbc or cnn, to tow the party line, all of them no better. they are lying. it's a habit made and picked up years ago.