new name. robert francis of work. it's a good name! chris: so they mostly with one notable exception. take a look. >> and most progressive record of anybody running. anybody that would run. chris: that was last night. he then tried to correct himself. how certain are you that joe biden is going to run and how do you assess his strengths and his potential weaknesses if he does? >> first will how certain, 95 percent. but is joe biden. five percent is still not zero percent. i things very likely it was a very telling clip that you showed. this field which we've been discussing is not fully formed until joe biden is in or out. and most likely is going to be in. he will test the proposition of how much change democrats really want this time? do they want someone who is transformational? mayor pete would certainly be a completely different kind of candidate. or do they want some