to franklin roosevelt that had 635 vetoes. 263 of which were pocket vetoes where the president doesn't take any action when congress is adjourned and after ten days the bill failed. so the president will be putting pen to paper soon if he hasn't already. >> shepard: there's other efforts, i understand, to block this emergency declaration. >> yeah, we saw what happened in congress the last couple weeks. there's also a myriad of lawsuits. the aclu and earth justice have filed private lawsuits against the emergency declaration. 21 states have banded together to try to block it as well. so far no court opinions on any of that. a lot of those suits of course have been filed in jurisdictions where the ninth circuit court of appeals has the jurisdictional oversight and the president doesn't fare well in the ninth circuit court of appeals.