to repent their own lives, they have to be alive to do that. shannon: we're not talking about due process but sham trials in places where people don't have human rights, this is a jury of their peers and in 2016 it was put to a referendum in the public so not only do they want to keep the death penalty but they wanted to expedite it. what do you tell those voters? it doesn't matter? >> not that it doesn't matter but we need to be better. we don't need to give into our tribal base instincts. to say there is right and wrong and we kill because it, we are better than that and more importantly, to my jewish brothers and sisters and christian brothers and sisters, deuteronomy and romans say this not our job as mortal humans to pass this kind of judgment and take this level of vengeance on one another.