people like to make fun of democrats if you're on the republican side. don't make fun of jerry nadler. he is smart and knows what he is doing. i think he is trying to get -- entrap some people in perjury. anybody who testified before like myself truthfully three times under oath. i testified beginning two years ago. maybe i misremember a date, color or smell and i'm on a perjury charge. if he gets somebody on a perjury trap like that they get them to flip and say something negative about the president. like michael cohen is doing. jerry nadler is trying to put together and assembly and trying to create another michael cohen so they can impeach the president. that is what this is all about. a perjury trap leading to impeachment and i'm not going to play. >> bill: doesn't look like the president will play, either. adam schiff made an appearance -- making a case that mueller can't put out a report unless he gets the president under oath. >> i think it is a mistake.