in good shape and growing. i think the trade issue needs to be resolved in order to get the global economy growing again. billions of customers that are not in north america, so we need to get back to doing business for them. >> bret: fred, we appreciate your time. >> fred: i'm glad to be here. they will be here soon, government statistics may back up the president's ruling there is a national emergency at the southern border. we will find out what the panelists think when we come back. >> your income doesn't have to. see how lincoln can help ensure you still have income every month of your retirement, guaranteed, at lincolnfinancial.com.