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earlier. so let's get the hearings underway. let's get the vote underway, forget the hearings. you don't need the hearings. >> if you don't have the facts and you don't have the events, you just have a p.r. campaign, democratss with the are launching. all of them. look, it's not just terry nadler, you have sicily knee, who said the president was on a crime spree before he was elected. the chairman of the oversight committee, elijah cummings, who said at the cohen hearing that there was proof the president committed a crime. the problem democrats have is you can't use words like that, crime spree, crime, pd obstruct, without unleashing impeachment that you cannot control. that is where this is headed in the democratic-controlled house. >> laura: pam, cnn's jeffrey toobin, who i know you guys are good buds, he was talking about how obama didn't have to deal with any of this because, let's watch. >> people in barack obama's white house didn't have to hire lawyers. because there were no scandals. i don't think it is just the times, i think it is the

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