republican comentator joe borell i joining us, and president lee carter, very good for your public opinion, and obviously part of the approach that bernie sanders is taking today is i am a man of the people. that's right. neil: these are my roots i'm consistent i'm not all over the map. i am who i am. >> there's something that people really love about your origin story about figuring out who it is that you are why you believe what you believe, and it makes it all authentic and real so the fact that he can go back to his roots and talk about how he's been believing this all his time and lived his life to get to here is something that's going to make people trust him more and when you have that kind of a story i think it's smart that you really lean into it and he does, so it's incredibly authentic and people really do resonate with that now whether or not people like his policies that's a different story but there's a lot of popularity for this guy. neil: i know polls are all over the map it's very very early, he