like i do. it's part of the way that he negotiates and moves through the world. >> i think there's something to that. i've interviewed the president a number of times. he does want to keep people off balance. a lot of his negotiating style is to make people wonder what this crazy guy is going to do next. i think what's most interesting is cohen laid out a bunch of things people say about the president. he's crazy, he's a liar, he's in over his head. none of that is true at all. in the book proposal he's saying the president is not a liar. and now he's saying the president is a huge liar. >> shannon: all the things exact opposite of what's in this p propos proposal. the parents of a college student blaming kim jong-un.